Archive for September, 2008

Too many phone numbers, not enough time

My mall success and my other sarges provided me with a lot of phone numbers. Some of the girls had a boyfriend, one of them gave me a wrong phone number but all in all I have a lot of options. The problem is I don’t have time for them. I arrive home (from work) at around 19 and tomorrow I start my masters (another 10 hours that must fit in my schedule). So I have a lot of contacts I haven’t seen for more than a week, the spell is gone and I should probably delete them.

 

IDEAS I HAVE:

  • throw a party and invite all of the girls I haven’t seen
  • invite them 3 times somewhere (after being a cool guy on the phone), if I get refused I can delete their number
  • this is the best moment to raise my standards. Why date 10 HB8s when I can date 2 HB9s and 1 HB10?
  • be more sexual on the girls, “risk it or lose it”
  • mix dates? now would be the time for the jealousy plot. I can even invite 3 flakey girls and see which one comes

FR: lots of fun and social proof, no number

FR 27.09.2008

I went to an oldies club with my best (girl) friends. I had a lot of fun, danced with everyone and partied partied partied.
Set 26 – 5 set: There were some girls near us that danced with each other slowly. I opened with “if two guys would do this no one would be looking”. Got some smiles, danced with one of my friends and I made acquaintance with them while dancing with my friend. It was pre-selection all the way. They weren’t good looking so I hadn’t any intention, just run some A2 material and danced with some of them.
Set 27 – 5 set: After my friends left I went to a girl I hardly knew and made acquaintance with her set. She was interested in me but I wasn’t. My target was one of her friends, HB9 blonde but I couldn’t hook. I started with a neg, told a story to her group and that was it.
Set 28 – 2 set: Negged, acted as they were part of Set 27 (their glasses were on our table). I could tell stories but nothing hooked. I loved the fact that all the guys were hitting on my target while I was in Set 27 and she rejected them all but when I came I could speak with them without problem (a great advantage of the indirect game and social proof). They left before I could continue.
I was very content with tonight’s game. A wing would have helped in most cases. This night gave me an idea of a numbers game: The Hookup Game. More on this in another post.
Good points:
  • preselection … and now I can find friends in almost every club I go
  • I’m more social and I can talk with everyone now
Bad points: 
  • couldn’t hook in my last 2 sets, I need funny, short material
  • I need to be more alpha
Sticking points:
  • FUNNY, SHORT MATERIAL

FR: The mall – 7/7 success

FR 27.09.2008

I went to the mall today (there was a modeling contest). I’ve got 7/7 successes (I rock at day game when the girl mentality is: shopping).
Set 19 – HB8 Model (PU ID 9): After the opener I ran my story (the girl was rushing but she listened because the story was interesting), I calibrated and took her number. 0 comfort talking.
Set 20 – HB7 (PU ID 10): Kino girl, she was promoting something. We held hands I could’ve kissed her if I stayed longer.
Set 21 – HB7 (PU ID 11): I went direct (told her I followed her into the market because I wanted to meet her), I tried not running PU and I didn’t know what to say so I started my stories (I didn’t want to ask the “Where you work” type of questions). She’s into psychology and she works at the mall.
Set 22 – HB8 (PU ID 12): I told her I’ve seen her in a club (yesterday). I was right. She works at the mall, came to town to work and doesn’t go to university. She wasn’t that interested (maybe because she was very sleepy) but I continued and I took her number.
Set 23 – HB9 (PU ID 13): It was a 2 set which I calibrated very well. She’s a club girl (very peacocked, even during daytime) and she invited me to a high school (!?!?) party.
Set 24 – HB8 (PU ID 14): Another 2 set I opened in the tram station. They are going to a club I like so we’ll probably meet tonight. I didn’t establish anything because I needed to get off the tram.
Set 25 – HB8 (PU ID 15): She’s first year, love clubbing and she has a bad memory. She also stays near my dorm so I’m thinking of a f-buddy here ;)
Good points:
  • calibration during daytime
  • opening one or two girls
  • getting phone numbers in the mall
  • no AA on HB9 and lower but I NEED TO APPROACH HB10s
Bad points:
  • If I don’t run PU I don’t know what to say, I need to be more social
Sticking point:
  • MAJORT STICKING POINT: not doing comfort/rapport!

FR: The 5 rejects mentality

FR 26.09.2008

I went with my friends in Heaven, again. They all practice PU (but they rarely approach) so I got in the “watching mood”. I wasn’t having fun so I started dancing (3 people danced on the whole stage) and after I raised my energy level I went on the 5 rejects idea (from a friend of mine). Basically your motto is to have 5 rejects in one night. It doesn’t matter how many successes you have, you must have 5 rejects. This is cool because it lowers your AA and you approach people with stupid statements and expect to be rejected. Here are my sets:
Set 16 – HB8 plus a girl and a boy: They were standing at the bar and I wanted a shot. I told her that I wanted to ask why she stayed seated for so long (she was in the same chair on my previous shot round) but I saw her scar and I was curious where she got it from. She had an operation so I tried to change her mood with a story. After that I ejected (no IOIs + I wasn’t really interested).
Set 17 – HB8 + 1 guy + 2 girls: I take the target (instead of the obstacle) and start my game. Lots of IOIs so I quickly get to A3 where I tell her she is cute and I shouldn’t compliment her on her looks. I introduce my wing and I go into C1. I liked they way her friend tried to save her from “the new guy” and she didn’t go because I did palm reading. I get her number (PU ID 8), talk 3 minutes more and then she leaves the club with her friends.
Set 18: I approach a girl that was dancing with 3 of her (girl) friends at a table. There were some guys siting and while I made acquaintance with the girls (direct game) one of the guys throws some alcohol in my direction. A little gets on my shirt but most of it hit the girl near me on her whole blouse so I laugh and start negging her that her friend is drunk and he is throwing drinks at her and I don’t speak to drunk people. I leave because the set didn’t hook and I didn’t want to test my AMOG skills in this situation.
Good points:
  • I need to stick to the 5 rejects mentality
  • good game on girls that like me
  • good calibration
Bad points:
  • having my state dictated by my friends. I should have fun regardless of what they are doing
  • not doing enough approaches
  • not gaming the obstacle
  • in Set 17 there was a moment when the girl took my necklace in her hands. “hands of the merchandise” worked ok but I should have told her a personal story (like where I’ve got it from)
  • Set 17 again: while I was talking (during A2) the girls had to pay for their drinks. So I was standing there doing nothing while they were calculating. I should’ve opened someone else not look like a looser.
Sticking points:
  • not using NLP in clubs to improve my state
  • not gaming the obstacle

REVIEW: 25.09.2008

R: 25.09.2008

After I collected all the good/bad and sticking points of my game here’s the summary:

 

Good points:

  • (+6)  I’m good at mantaining dominance, resisting shit tests and making fun of girls (lil’ negs)
  • (+2) relaxed BL
  • (+2) opening
  • (+2) social proof / social circle game
  • (+2) timebridging

 

Bad points:

  • (-10) material (short funny stories)
  • (-6) be more bold/alpha
  • (-6) slow talk
  • (-6) ljbf / bf destroyer routines / alpha dominance
  • (-4) bad memory
  • (-4) calibrate
  • (-2) fastgame during day
  • (-2) failure recovery
  • (-2) entering a set and not running game
  • (-2) needy
  • (-2) be direct if you risk loosing her
  • (-1) kino

 

So these are my new STICKING POINTS:

  • more material (concentrate on A2 – funny stories, C1 elicit rapport)
  • boldness (state intentions before loosing the set)
  • slow talk
  • anti LJBF techniques (boldness helps, also BF destroyer phone routines)

FR: Getting over the “I have a boyfriend” problem

FR 24.09.2008

A lot of girls tell me they have a boyfriend after they give me their number. I never get to meet them.
Set 15 – HB8.5: I changed my direction for her. My opener worked flawlessly, she (PU ID 6) goes to two universities (second year in both of them) and she’s the shy one. I told her that I wanted to go to the zoo, her roommate was there so I asked for her number and planed a trip to the zoo for the weekend. I’ve got good calibration: she hesitated when I asked for her number so I told her: “then don’t give it to me”, I’ve seen she was getting ready to leave so I continued “I’ll take it instead”. Worked perfectly. I called her during the evening and she told me she had a boyfriend. The thing is I know she regretted that… but how can I solve the problem?
Day 2 with PU ID 3: I went to the tan saloon again (she said she didn’t have time for a meeting: school + work combo) and we’ve chatted a bit. After we were holding hands (again) she told me she had a boyfriend and doesn’t want to cheat on him. I told her that I don’t wait for girls and I won’t speak to her again (I denied her the friend option), if she wants to meet with me she’ll sms me this month or I’ll delete her number. She was amazed and some clients came into the room. After they left I put her on the wall and we made out. I’ll have to decide if I should wait for her message, call her or go there again.
Good points:
  • good calibration, I’m getting better at this
  • good kino with girls, it’s becoming natural for me to touch girls when I talk
Bad points:
  • I’m more of a cute boy that talks about adrenaline … I should be more alpha
  • I need to speak slowly
  • I need more material (for Day 2s and for diversity)
Sticking points:
  • I need more connection material
  • I’m gaming way too many girls with boyfriends (for all miniPUs out there, this is not a shit test). I’ll have to develop my boyfriend destroyer routines

FR: Forgetting girls’ faces and other failures

FR 23.09.2008

Today was my worst day at sarging, totally hilarious:
Set 13 – HB7: I opened a 2set but the blonde one said she I asked her the same question a while ago (I’ve got a bad memory). I kept the conversation until a turn point where I made the mistake of choosing a direction before they did. Seems like they were going elsewhere.
Set 14 – HB8.5: Good start but at the beginning of my opener I see my previous set on the road, coming to us. They didn’t see me and I didn’t want the other girls to hear the same opener (thus knowing I was sarging) so I told the HB8.5 I’ve got a phone call and turned to the right. They laughed and went.
Sticking points:
  • a bad memory I need to improve
  • trying to guess where they are going at a crossroad (I should let them choose the direction and tell them we’re going the same way)

Deleting old numbers?

I thought a lot about deleting some numbers in my phone. I have numbers from some flakey girls and girls with boyfriends. I couldn’t really meet with them (except 1 or 2) but they were interested when they gave me their numbers. 

Here are the problems I’ve encountered:

  • boyfriends
  • we didn’t go into C1 (fast number close while going to work)
  • “our world” frame was forgot the next day

So what should I do next:

  • propose a meeting before number close (I tried to but I wasn’t that clear)
  • a little of C1 (personal story, deep story) <– I don’t know how I’ll pull it off on the street
  • sms them the same day, meet the next
  • delete these flakey numbers

PGR: A new sticking point found

I did some bad phone game on PU ID 5. Here are the details:

  • I kept repeating that she is interesting and that’s why I want to meet her (I should make a list of qualities I can qualify a woman with without being too direct)
  • She kept repeating that she won’t meet with me because she’s best friend with my ex (my ex being a girl I dated like 4 days). I should’ve reframed into something funny or adventurous.
  • I need a phone game plan that qualifies and is interesting

FR: BDAY OWNAGE

FR 20.09.2008

Set 11 HB8 (target) + HB7: A girl  (PU ID 6) that I’ve met only once before invited me to her birthday party so I went to the mall to buy her a present. There I went in a 2 set with my opener, talked with them a bit and even though my target got interrupted by some friends of hers I got her friend’s (PU ID 7) phone number (who was cute too).

Set 12 HB9 + friends: At the birthday I just … ROCKED. I played lots of games with all the girls, told some stories and got attraction from all the girls I talked too (17 to 28 years old). I slow danced with my target (I didn’t want to kiss her with her parents near and a bit too much alcohol on both sides).

Good points:

  • I can tell stories very well now but I need more stories
  • I can rock a party

Bad points:

  • I’m not social by nature (couldn’t talk well with the girl’s parents at the beginning), I also couldn’t find common subjects with some of the older guests
  • I needed a stronger frame at the beginning, I could’ve kissed her when I came but I didn’t know my status (still think I did a good job)

Sticking points:

  • I need to TALK SLOWER. I tell my stories fast and all my games which makes me look very needy.

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