A new sticking point rises

Woow! These couple of months were amazing. I had 3somes, same day lays, same night lays and all the shit I couldn’t have imagined 3 years ago. This tuned me to another level. I am very confident in bed, I know how to dominate, how to use parading and flash game to get the most beautiful girl’s number (even if she’s way taller than me) and to close the deal … but!

In the last week 4 things went wrong. I couldn’t kiss close on my day 2 on 2 girls and I lost to LMR on a SNL and a DAY 2 lay. WTF?

I’m now analyzing this for my sake and for any other reader that could use this info.

Here’s what happened:

Set 1: A date with a girl I number closed at a party. She was cute, by Pandora’s box system she is a realist and an investor. The date went great even though I had difficulty trying to avoid all her logical and emotionless stories. I stole her from the bar and we went to a restaurant at high altitude where I showed her the town. I tried to kiss her (even though I knew it wasn’t the moment … but I wanted LJBF prevention) and failed. I tried after a while and failed again. I brought her to my place where we dance and bonded (on a romantic / emotional level) but she wouldn’t kiss me. I also don’t think she’s a virgin … but she was elusive to my indirect inquiries. One more thing: I tried kissing her several times even though I knew she will refuse, I could’ve acted cold, as if she had a problem.

Set 2: A date with another girl from the same party. I number closed her 2 years ago (she’s gorgeous) but I couldn’t get the date then. Now I did and the result was the same as Set 1. Even though she was an idealist, tester, justifier … she was a virgin (with a great body – she was a dancer) and I couldn’t get the kiss. She was very responsive to my touch but I couldn’t get to that emotional high that would allow a kiss. Same thing as in Set 1, I tried kissing her several time without success. I didn’t act cold as the interaction went great (I preferred to be nonreactive).

Set 3: After a clubbing night I went home with a girl I sarged 3 months ago (but I had better opportunities then so I didn’t want her, she seemed shy). I was very smooth and got her all wet but I couldn’t undress her. I played hot-cold and she said that if she stayed she would let it go and she didn’t want to. I wasn’t really interested in her and I let her leave (it didn’t feel like I was losing something)

Set 4: I went to a club with a lot of girls (1 man – 8 females). I had my fuckbuddy there, my other fuckbuddy, 2 girls I kissed and didn’t close and 2 other dates that I intentionally LJBFed. One of those dates brought a girl with her. She was tall (one head above me) and gorgeous (she was modeling). I used preselection and flash game to get the HB. I ran a smooth game while getting my 2 fuckbuddies jealous. After number closing the girl I went home with my primary FB to get that jealous sex going.

2 days after I met with the tall model. Got a great date and kissed her (she was playfully denying me … which was bad, frame wise). I brought her home were we made out passionately and I couldn’t get pass the LMR. I masturbated via clothes but even though she was breathing heavily she stopped me. I tried for 1 hour but it didn’t go nowhere so I switched to debugging. She told me she needed security and trust … so I told her a story about an ex, then she told me she needs a romantic guy (but I knew better so I reframed it: she wanted a bad boy she can save that has a very deep side). I built a lot of comfort (hand in hand, talking about dreams) while the sexual tension dropped. One thing she told me: I was too insistent, it would have worked if she would’ve had a say. From my point of view: I didn’t do the 2 step forward one step back thingie, because I saw she was into it and I was too sure on myself (got her in my bed on first date, didn’t I?).

CORRECTION

Let’s analyze the 4 sets for a moment. One thing to note is that I still have attraction with all the girls and I can meet any of them if I want to (except Set 3 … I don’t have her number … nor do I want it). The girls like me and want another date with me … what went wrong?

1) Overconfidence

A few years ago I wouldn’t have dreamed of day 2 lays. Having a lot of them in the last couple of months changed me perception. I’m now EXPECTING them to happen. This has its good points and one BAD point. If it doesn’t happen, I try to force it! I use tricks to get her to my place as I know where I can get from there. The problem is that they backfire, she realizes during LMR that she didn’t want to get there. What I should do is play smooth game: get my A2, A3, C before going for the close … specially if I have time.

2) Not running smooth game

As I said before, overconfidence makes me skip game phases. I know that the 7 hours rule is old school … but it still exists (in some cases). I should be more empathic to the girl’s needs and do the A2/C phase a little stronger (read her better, find her needs and wants and then … sweep her off her feet).

3) Being reactive

I’m expecting to win, so if I’m having bad LMR or I can’t kiss I’ll try harder. I have the techniques to get a little further … but by being non-reactive I’ll probably skip 2 steps of the process. I should be less insistent once I’m denied the close.

CONCLUSION

Even though I usually get my way, these 4 sets made me realize some important things, the most important being that I’ll have to concentrate more on listening to what the girl needs.

STEPS TO CORRECT

1) Listen to what the girl needs / wants.

2) On a denied KISS / LMR be non-reactive, try again and if that fails break the mood and do something boring.

3) Get more A2 in to be more desirable.

I invented a new type of gameI: DOOR GAME!

Yesterday, I boldly went where no one else has gone before.

I dated a girl that was very antisocial (but with a HB9 body) and I didn’t like where the things were going. So I wanted to play a little game … and since I’m into dares, I dared myself to fuck her ex roommates. While on the phone with her I told her how you can never remember the street you were on after you move out, to which she told me she did (and told me her street); after some other stories I played a game where we had to tell use our previous apartment’s number so I got that info too.

Armed with an apartment number and the street of her previous apartment I knew only that there lived 2 girls (I didn’t know how they looked or if they had boyfriends). I went with a bottle of wine and knocked to their apartment: a petite HB6 responded. I told them that I just bought an apartment somewhere near and was looking for some friends that I’ve visited there 2 years ago (it was a rented apartment). She told me she didn’t know any and asked her friend (HB8.5). I asked for the number of the owner of the apartment and they let me in until one of them searched her phone. From there I went into comfort (they were students) and at a properly calibrated moment I told them: “What the fuck, I’ve never done this before! Let’s open the wine!”.

3 hours later I’m leaving the apartment with the girls’ numbers and good conversation. I also timebridged them for clubbing next week.

Notes:

• I tried going sexual but they were shy and didn’t react well
• I can go the next level on our day 2

Key points:

• ask for something that takes a time to be delivered (the phone number of the apartment owner)
• go with a prop (a bottle of wine) so you have an excuse to stay later and a valid reason for being there
• go into commonalities as fast as you can
• acknowledge that this is strange but reframe it as something spontaneous

DOOR GAME has born!!!

Why should you go to clubs or pickup girls in day game when you can go to their apartment, drink with them and then, fuck like rabbits?

Great technique for a 3some

I used the Dual Induction Massage (credits Stlye) and made out with both of them. One of the girls was very rational so I reframed everything to: once in a lifetime, you want it, etc. Woke up the next morning with 2 gorgeous girls by my side

I’m going for my 2nd 3some

Today HornyGirl, the last girl I fucked in front of a club called me inviting me to a club (near her apartment). She told me she was going with her girls (2 of which I kiss closed, one of which I was already intimate with <check my Prince Charming Gone Bad post). I said yes and at 21:00 she calls telling me the girls ain’t commin’. I test for logistics and invite her and one of her friends (the girl I didn’t fully close) to a private party, key words in the invite: wine, hats, pictures and masks. She hesitate (preferred she came alone) but I insisted and she said yes.

If she comes with her girl I’m going for a 3some (using the old dual induction technique) and if not it’ll be rough sex and a bottle of wine

FR: 3some photo shoot (squirting included)

As I said, this year I’ve got to the next level. I wanted 3 3somes by the end and I’ve already had 1 in the first 3 months. Here’s the story:

SEDUCTION

I want snowboarding with ~50 people in a bus. During the trip a girl caught my attention. I busted balls a lot and used my l33t C&F techniques to bring the bantering to the next level. I laughed my ass off there . Then I qualified her and started a deep cold reading (she was sexual and I guessed the age at which she lost her virginity … I’m getting good at this ). Instant attraction! I also got a big bonus as she already heard of me from one of her friends.

We stopped at a gas station and we had a moment (sexual tensions), I could’ve kissed her there but I delayed.

LOGISTICS

On the road to our alpine villa I told her: “We’re staying together, right?”. She agreed. Then I tested her: “wait, before … I’ll have to test you”. I kissed her and qualified: “You’re definitely staying with me!”.

When we get to the room I have a big surprise: a big bed …. Las Vegas style!

We prepare for the party and get together with the others. At the beginning of the party she kisses me (I left her alone until then to get some doubts in her mind) and then she’s talking with the DJ. We both run jealousy plotlines (oh man she’s good) … and I figure … this is going nowhere … so instead of making her jealous I talk with the DJ, qualifying him and telling him about a 3some.

CLOSE

We take a break and go to my room where she’s giving me an excellent blow job (BEST DEEPTHROAT EVER!!! A TRUE 9.5!!!). Then we go back.

I talk about a 3some with a guy who’s an expert in photography (for some private shoots) and after a while, I go with the DJ to my room. We talk there but it seems she didn’t get the idea so the DJ leaves. After a while she enters and I start fingering her, but then, someone knocks on the door. She answers only to find the camera guy there. I wave and tell him to enter while she’s trying to act all shy and innocent. I’m fingering her under the bed sheets while we innocently talk with the cameraman . He starts taking pictures and I remove the sheets.

From here on I can give you only keywords: oral sex, fucking, fingering, SQUIRTING!!! until morning We both cummed 3 times.

She loved the sex and she said she wouldn’t fuck for a week. I anchored the experience with a gesture and we went to sleep naked. Great fuck, great experience!

Some interesting facts about her: she’s open minded, open sexually, yet she lost her virginity 2 years ago. Also, she has a boyfriend for the last 2 weeks and they didn’t fuck.

PS: Remember those roommates (2 of which I closed?) … well … I closed the last one

FR: Cocky funny brings you IOIs

FR 9.11.2008

Set 110 – HB8 (PU ID 59): My mum helped me here. For real! She told me to take her number as we were colleagues at kindergarten . I was very alpha in asking her if she goes out, guessing where she goes and then nonchalantly giving her my phone and telling her we’ll go sometime. All of this in front of her mum.

 

Day 2 with PU ID 56 (my HB9): She’s very interesting has a lot of things going in her life and my nickname for her makes her laugh. I kino her a lot and we have a good interaction but she isn’t ready for a kiss close (WTF? I don’t want to LJBF every interesting girl I meet). I’m considering this kino but no kiss a sticking point from now on. She paid for the drinks (she’s the second girl in two days, damn’ I’m good ).

 

Set 111 – HB9 (PU ID 60): I gamed her at PU ID 15‘s party. I was preselected there (the girls loved me, the boys wanted more games) and I was telling PU ID 15 how my target will react and when she’ll give me her number. I’m a BL guru in her mind. My target was very responsive and I teased her a lot. It seemed that after every comment I got an IOI. I didn’t isolate her though and didn’t want to risk a kiss rejection in front of my friends.

Good stuff: Negged her, teased her and played with her. It was a lot of fun.

Bad stuff: I forgot about seeding and I couldn’t get some comfort topics in the discussion.

Where I lost the set: -

Things to do differently: More comfort and rapport (maybe stories from childhood). Seeding early in the discussion.

FR: Cocky funny GETS YOU LAID

FR 1.112008

 

Set 95 – HB8: I approached directly. Got A2, A3 and a little bit of comfort. The only problem was logistics: she arrived at her block and it was raining so she wanted to get inside. Also her clothes were on the balcony and she wanted to move them in. This made her break my game in A2 (entering the building) and in C1 (going for the clothes). I didn’t get her number, only her messenger id which was fake.

Good stuff: I can open directly if I see it fit. Got her interested enough to arrive in C1 with her.

Bad stuff: The good boy vibe. 

Where I lost the set: Her being in a hurry.

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

 

From there I went to a private costume party with my friends. I gave love to the room (everybody tried to took the my mask). It is a blessing to have a mask in A2 and a curse to continue with it. There is mystery but the girl has her guards up. Took some messenger ids from girls that took pictures with me (I’ll try some mess game … maybe).

 

Set 96 – 2 set (mixed): I talked to the guy, took the girl (HB9) from him and danced with her. There I made some A2 and isolated her on a near bench. Comfort building and back to our table. She thinks I’m deep and she likes me but she was physically interested in another boy at the party.

Good stuff: Good standard game.

Bad stuff: No teasing.

Where I lost the set: -

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

Set 97 – HB5 (PU ID 53): I went to sit with some girls and gamed one of them. While I was doing my first C1 game my *close sensor went wild. We made out like little rabbits. C1 C1 C1 followed and a little C2. I have a secret technique that makes girls melt for me. Some of her friends tried to take her while I had moved her outside and she didn’t want to. I asked her later if she wanted to go to them but she refused. My friends were leaving and I had no excuse to stay there any longer so I left too. 

Good stuff: Everything.

Bad stuff: -

Where I lost the set: -

Things to do differently: Should’ve bounced her to a fast food and from there to my room.

 

From there we went to a club.

Set 98 – 2 set: I opened them with something specific for my costume. I gamed the girl pretty well but a friend of mine made a bad impression (twice) and then sit near her. This ruined the set (she left). I could’ve taken her number.

Good stuff: Good game.

Bad stuff: The good boy vibe. 

Where I lost the set: Friends sabotaging me. Even though they know about PU they enter my sets without any reason. One of them tried to speak with the girl’s friend without being introduce. He ejected after a while.

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

TIP: I left my drink at the girl’s table while I spoke with some friends. This was a good excuse for me to come back and continue the discussion. This could be called The Drink Prop.

FR: BDay party

FR 4.10.2008

Set 40 – HB8: Works at the mall and she’s very attractive. I talked to her and she liked me but people kept coming to her shop and she was distracted. I tried to number close her and she refused (she told me she didn’t know me even though the attraction was there). I left her my number in a small book containing zodiac signs at my sign. I’ll go there in another day in case she won’t phone me and get the job done.

 

A party where I got no number close or kiss close, here are the valid excuses:

• one HB10 in the whole party and she had a boyfriend, the rest of the girls are HB7s or less
• lots of minors (the other cute girl was 15!!!)
• logistics problems: only chairs and a fixed number of people that rarely got up

As usual, I rocked at the party. All the girls liked me and I dirty danced with all of them. One of them said I was the most interesting guy at the party, another 2 were impressed; hell, even the bartender liked me. But no one was interesting enough! There was a striptease moment that everybody liked.

 

Good points:

• rocked at the party as usual
• running good A2 material

Bad points:

• no number closes for today
• bad BL when trying to sit near girls because the people that were dancing came back and wanted their chairs. I should’ve been the life of the party with all the girls near me, that way everyone would have wanted to be there BUT!!! they weren’t talkative enough to have a conversation like that.

FR: Party party and my quest for numbers continues

FR 4.10.2008

 

Set 37 – HB6: Blonde girl (PU ID 22) I opened in the tram station. I like the way she talks, she sleeps a lot and as usual I had a smooth number close. 

Set 38 – 2set HB7 && HB6: I went to the dorms in search for my second number. Attractive body, medium face, she (PU ID 23) told me that she hadn’t gone out in a long time (she tried but friends kept bailing). Her girl friend has a BF so I should check logistics before inviting both of them somewhere.

Set 39 – HB7: Attractive body, cute face (I have to get used to the rating system). She (PU ID 24) goes out sometimes and she doesn’t work.

My number closes work so good now that I don’t remember details about my interactions. Once I start talking I know I’ll get the number (even if I find out later they have a boyfriend). I shouldn’t try to approach sets with sevens (unless they are mixed), it’s way too easy.

PU ID 17 called me and during the interaction she told me that we should meet a few times so that I should know her. That’s a strong IOI. I invited her to a food party at my friend but I should have a date with her before that.

Party with yesterday’s Set 34: HB 9.5 (PU ID 21) and HB7 (UG3 didn’t come). They didn’t announce me (I should’ve checked they were all coming) so we were 3 boys and 2 girls. We talked and drank until morning and I did a lot of comfort on my HB 9.5. It’s too bad I didn’t make an impression with the party. I should’ve started dancing with her etc etc. I didn’t escalate kino (dunno if it was proper with 2 other guys and 1 girl talking in front of us). She’s way taller than me (the first girl I gamed that was taller than me).

Good points:

• very good game with HB8s and less when they are solo or with 1 girl friend
• good comfort with the girl
• good eye contact

Bad points:

• NONE

Sticking points:

• lack of kino escalation