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LR: SNL in a club

I’m going to write about this same night lay because it was interesting and I want to reproduce the results later.

 

I went to a ball for the 1st year psychology students in a club were some friends had a competition.

The first part of the night was the usual sarging (with a lot of success). I had DHV by knowing some of the guys/girls around and the jealousy plotlines were all around me. A girl I knew went with me to get married by some random girls, then I got divorced from her with the help of another set. I opened like crazy, isolated, etc etc. The night was fun.

I opened a mixed set telling them to vote with a friend of mine, met the guys and their girlfriends and left for other sets. I later met the guy all around the club (he knew some people there) and chit chatted with him. I also found he was a friend of a girl I was sarging. Then I took his girl for a dance (I wasn’t sure if they were together).

She danced with me, lustfully, while her boyfriend watched. While I was bantering with her she tells me about her boyfriend that sits there. I ask how long they’ve been together and she says it doesn’t matter. We continue dancing and then I switch to another girl.

Later that night I take her again to dance with me (I was very confident and I didn’t really care about his boyfriend … he was too passive and I actually talked with him, before stealing her). I stole her in his face, dirty dancing again. I took her and moved in other parts of the club 2 or 3 times while her boyfriend was sitting helplessly. She was moving her butt like crazy.I take her back and continued sarging.

I came back after a while and told her: “I’m stealing you from your boyfriend” and I took her towards the toilet. All the way I’m testing for resistance and she didn’t have any … until I OPENED THE MEN BATHROOM DOOR. Then she tells me she wouldn’t do that as she has a boyfriend. I close the door and say “Ok, I’m a man, I had to try.” She answers with “Yeah, you had to try.”. Then she tells me she doesn’t cheat on her boyfriend. I tell her I understand, and I love to dance with her so we’ll continue dancing. I take her on the dance floor and dance … lasciviously with her (while her boyfriend was looking after her). I took her number then and I leave her with her boyfriend.

She drank all night long and at this point she drinks more. I notice her boyfriend leaves (for the bathroom?) .

I dance with her again half kissing and teasing each other. I tell her that I take numbers and make out with girls in club, it’s normal and not that interesting for me, what’s more interesting is the drama we play and the teasing. She tells me her boyfriend left and she goes back to her couch where she drinks and finishes her smoke (while I dance with a friend). I come to her, she tells me she’s not yet drunk (she wanted to put the blame on me for making her drunk, I don’t buy into it). She asks if I drank tonight, I say I have fun without needing to drink. I tell her to drink as I want her to dance with me, she finishes her drink and then I steal her in the back of the club where we make out heavily. She tried a weak resistance to go to her friends but I stop her and move my knee between her legs. Then I move her hand down my abs to my crouch, she tries to enter my pants so I unbutton 2 buttons. She barely touches my penis while we make out like crazy rabbits (at this point I’m playing a little with her vagina, just to get her started). I took her in my arms (without support from her feet) and kissed her heavily, this made her very horny. We sit on the couch then and she asks me: what did you see in me? I use the newly learned sexual intrigue techniques and tell her: “The second thing I like about you is your eyes, I love the way you look at me. The third thing … is the way you danced. The way we danced and the way you laugh … made me kiss you and the other things that we’ll be doing … are because of you <hinting to what’s next>” (this was exactly what she needed to come with me). There were some waiters that came and went to a door near us so I take her hand and lead her near the bar.

I wanted to enter the bar and fuck her right there but I don’t see the entrance. Instead, I find some stairs that go to a secluded place in the club where there are some couches. On the stairs she stop for a deep kiss while I play with her vagina again. I undress my pants, put a condom on and move her doggy style on the stairs, then I take her shirt of and we fuck like crazy. I put her on the stairs and get into her from the front and she orgasms. She wanted a breath (her back was acking) so I bring her up. She asks: “and you?”. I ask her how do you prefer? <hoping she’ll choose a blowjob or something extravagant>. She doesn’t respond so I put her doggy style and finish myself.

After we came back we couldn’t dance and it was hot for both of us. We joked that at truth or dare we would both respond that the strangest place where we had done it would be in the same club. She tells me not to tell anyone and I respond that I’ll tell people I did it in this club but I won’t tell anyone that it was you. One of my friends took her to dance and I was glad ;-). Then one of her friends comes to me and tells me her boyfriend put him responsible to take her home. I gladly said “That’s perfect”.

 

KEY POINTS:

  • it’s a number’s game (I get one night stands by going out 3-4 times a week and meeting a lot of girls)
  • her hands on my abs make the girl horny
  • sexual intrigue and tension can easily be created if the girl is interested in you
  • the boyfriend excuse it’s just like rape kino: go until she says no
  • by saying no on the first try, persist and be cool, never apologize, just say it’s natural to you
  • a lot of girls saw me with other girls and they were all cool with it
  • I isolated girls with boyfriends this night, it is possible if you have something to say

 

PS: She’s 18 and it was our first time in a club.

PPS: I used some frames in our discussions that supported the hard to get good to fuck impression she had of me: a good dancer, ex stripper and I’m going to steal her from her boyfriend <it’ll be only the two of us>. I supported my statements by moving her hands on my body (my abs especially). I also created sexual tension (half kisses, touches almost on the breasts) we played … without being vulgar.

PPPS: I recorded an audio after this so I could write about it the next day. I remembered most of the things because through the whole night I was calm and confident.

FR: Easy game on HB9.5

FR 1.10.2009

Set 154 – HB8.5: Opened in the night on a dark alley. Cool opener: “Hey, I know we’re in a dark alley but I just wanted to make acquaintance”. Good vibe but she was in a LTR. I didn’t close.

Good stuff: Opening in a dark alley.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set: She had a boyfriend.

Things to do differently:


FR 3.10.2009

Set 155 – HB9.5: Extremely gorgeous girl on the street. She’s clubbing in the capital, knows a lot of successful people and models. I had a good game but she had a boyfriend.

Good stuff: Good game: A1->A3

Bad stuff: Should have exploited a spike of interest: seed a day 2 with her boyfriend at a party.

Where I lost the set: She had a boyfriend, my seed didn’t work.

Things to do differently: If she’s very high status, seed a social day 2 with her boyfriend.


Set 156 – HB8.5: She saw me with the HB9.5 and I used this to open her. She had a boyfriend.


Set 157 – HB8.5 (PU ID 92): Opened good looking girl on the street. She was very talkative and I’ve run great game A1->C1 on the street. Since she wasn’t resistant to me stopping her there I planned an insta-date. We went for a cup of tea and we had a lot of fun. I also left her with a cheap ring (as a prop).

Good stuff: Good game: A1->C1 + INSTA-DATE!!! Prop so she’ll meet me again.

Bad stuff: Not enough commonalities in A3.

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently: Listen more to what she says, evoke her emotions for the stories she tells.

Day 2 with PU ID 94: She’s the dancing type, I’ve ran good game even though the guy I brought was miserable and couldn’t hold a conversation (and … cockblocked me). I’ve got +++ as I wasn’t defazed from his amogging but — as he wasn’t a cool friend.

CLUBBING

Various sets: I didn’t vibe with any of the HB9+ girls, only HB8, HB7 && co. I couldn’t get attraction to HB9s and I didn’t break into their world. I still got a K-close from HB7.5 (PU ID 93)

Good stuff: It seems I can K-close in each clubbing session. I also left the club with PU ID 93 and my friends think I had a ONS (even though she refused to come when we were in the taxi in front of my home).

Bad stuff: The sets lost interest in A2. (possible reasons: I was the intruder, no social proof)

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently: Pebbles and small games that I can do to my friends and make them curious. Also the fact that a HB9 saw I kissed HB7.5 helped me talk to her but I didn’t close.

FR 4.10.2009

Day 2 with PU ID 93: Everything went well, I got into deep talk. I should’ve done more attraction but she’s still hooked. I got some feedback as to why girls don’t respond to guys calling on the second day (even though they kiss them).

PU ID 95 and PU ID 96: 2 sets while going and coming from the gym. On the first I was direct and got her number, on the second I was indirect but when I realized they were going to the taxi I got my target’s number without much game.

FR: Bantering owns, club game – rocks

FR 29.09.2009

Set 150 – 6 set: I opened a 3 set with an opinion opener and then their friends came. I quickly made acquaintance with 3 other boys that joined the set and bantered and had a lot of fun. I didn’t use any routines, just bantered and bantered. I had a lot of fun, joked with my target and vibed with the group. I took the group leader’s mess id for a party as logistically I couldn’t close my target indirectly. PS: I tried to but she wasn’t interested in the threads I opened for the close.

Good stuff: Opened 6 set, vibed with all the group.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently: I could’ve created other interesting threads that could result in a number close.


Night game

Set 151 – 6 set (PU ID 89): I opened a HB9 and vibed with her and her friends. It was my second mixed set. After a lot of fun and a cool isolation I’ve set a date 2 for today.

Good stuff: Opened mixed set, vibed.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently:


Set 152 – 3 set (PU ID 90): I opened them directly and vibed with the whole group. My target was talkative and had a business going but she was a HB6.5. I dirty danced with her and her friend and had a lot of fun. I isolated, #closed, K-closed  but after a while of dancing I got bored and the vibe started going down. I did a cool game that changed a bit the atmosphere and I left.

Good stuff: Everything.

Bad stuff: The vibe went down after a while.

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently:


Other noticeable things: I’ve met with PU ID 88 and after 5 minutes I left her alone to go to my friends. You should see her face! I’ve also met PU ID 83 and she danced all night. I’ll kiss her on a day 2. All in all I got 1 number close, 1 kiss close and went on a short 2nd date with one of my previous sarges. I also isolated all my sarges with success and I’m getting better and better at this game.

Things to do differently: Vin di Carlo’s escalation ladder, one night stands, get my standards up (tonight I sarged HB6.5, HB8 and HB9, I should ignore HB7s and go for the good looking ones).

FR 30.09.2009

Set 153 – 1 set HB9 (PU ID 91): A very cute girl passed by as I was going to work and I went after her. Went direct, vibed and did perfect game. I isolated her on a bench and got her number (even though she had a boyfriend).

Good stuff: Asking how long she was with her boyfriend (like 3 weeks). Getting her schedule (a very good move).

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently:

FR: Kiss close on day 2, was that my SP?

FR 11.11.2008

Day 2 with PU ID 60 (another HB9): We vibed a lot and I did Style’s evolution phase shift routine. I know when it works now. She paid for the drinks (the third girl in 1 week) and she’ll call me from another country (where she’s going this weekend).

Good stuff: Everything in the interaction. I hinted on future adventures and had 2 with her. I also hinted on romance, sexuality and playfulness. I think my Day 2 should consist in hints on my personality and questions towards hers. 

Bad stuff: –

Things to do differently: –

 

What did this change from PU ID 56 (the girl I couldn’t kiss close on the second date):

  • I was very playful and teasing at the party
  • I got preselection there (girls enjoyed me)
  • I didn’t go deep into comfort but rather stick to the fun part
  • On my Day 2 I hinted on an interesting personality and qualified her a lot

FR: Isolation and kiss closes

FR 8.11.2008

Day 2 with PU ID 57: Took her number last year and we didn’t meet because I was busy. Finally we went out but I couldn’t stay as I had other plans. We played a game and she lost so she paid for the drinks. Even though I didn’t escalate kino (she’s average looking and I didn’t want her that much) she auto invited herself to my place the next week (for drinks). I’m going for a ONS here.

Good stuff: Natural talk (no gaming) with some good vibing. She paid for the drinks.

Bad stuff: I didn’t escalate kino (part because I didn’t want to).

Things to do differently: Play some touchy games.

After my Day 2 I went with the boys in another town, clubbing. Here are my sets:

Set 104: Opened her over the shoulder while I was dancing. She answered and I didn’t continue (planned to A2 later and just get her the “I know you” feeling). But later I was occupied with other girls so we didn’t continue.

Good stuff: Would’ve been a nice plan: open her and A2 later.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set: I didn’t come back as I was playing with other girls.

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her / played with her and leave on a high point, not just after the opener.

 

 

Set 105: I opened 2 girls while they were dancing and did a lot of A2 but they were minors (and I mean REALLY minors) so I ejected.

Good stuff: Ejected on a high point. I could’ve approached them later, successfully.

Bad stuff: –

Where I lost the set: I didn’t come back as I was playing with other girls.

Things to do differently: 


Set 106 – 2 set – HB8s: A friend of mine told me 2 girls were looking for me. I knew one from this summer when I gamed her (very well I may say). I vibed with both of them and isolated the one that didn’t know me. There was a lot of kino but we didn’t k-close (WHY???). I’ve got her number and she’s very responsive to text game (PU ID 58).

Good stuff: Good game and a good interaction.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set:

Things to do differently:  I should’ve left them on high points and returned when I wanted (non needy). I think more rapport would’ve helped here.

 

Set 107 – HB8: A very cute blonde was introduced to me by a girl I partied with this summer. A good game took place where I isolated her, kiss closed her and played with both her and her friends. I didn’t take her number (one of their friends were sick so they left in a hurry) but I really don’t care, I’ll have her next time.

Good stuff: Easy game

Bad stuff: 

Where I lost the set: –

Things to do differently:  I should’ve left her on high points and returned when I wanted (non needy). I think more rapport would’ve helped here too.


Set 108 – HB7: Winged my friend that was gaming her HB9 friend. She had a very attractive body and … a boyfriend … … THERE! Even though she told me this I continued joking with her and she got hooked. I also negged her a lot (which really helped) especially when I told her that her boyfriend is holding my HB9 friend’s hand. She then told me she lets him do whatever he wants. I wasn’t that interesting in playing with the boyfriend near and I ejected.

Good stuff: Teasing and gaming even though she appears not to like you works.

Bad stuff:

Where I lost the set: 

Things to do differently:  I should’ve used a BF destroyer pattern.


 

Set 109 – HB6: Opened her when I was ready to leave. I went through the whole game but she appeared not to be interested. Then I got her on my comfort game but she still didn’t want to be spinned. Anyway I helped her with an advice (derived from my game).

Good stuff: Holding my frame until comfort worked, I opened her a bit.

Bad stuff: 

Where I lost the set: She wasn’t interested and she was tired. I didn’t get her mood up.

Things to do differently: A short game to get her mood up, I don’t know what to do with unhappy people that don’t open from the beginning. 

 

 

 

 

FR: Cocky funny GETS YOU LAID

FR 1.112008

 

Set 95 – HB8: I approached directly. Got A2, A3 and a little bit of comfort. The only problem was logistics: she arrived at her block and it was raining so she wanted to get inside. Also her clothes were on the balcony and she wanted to move them in. This made her break my game in A2 (entering the building) and in C1 (going for the clothes). I didn’t get her number, only her messenger id which was fake.

Good stuff: I can open directly if I see it fit. Got her interested enough to arrive in C1 with her.

Bad stuff: The good boy vibe. 

Where I lost the set: Her being in a hurry.

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

 

From there I went to a private costume party with my friends. I gave love to the room (everybody tried to took the my mask). It is a blessing to have a mask in A2 and a curse to continue with it. There is mystery but the girl has her guards up. Took some messenger ids from girls that took pictures with me (I’ll try some mess game … maybe).

 

Set 96 – 2 set (mixed): I talked to the guy, took the girl (HB9) from him and danced with her. There I made some A2 and isolated her on a near bench. Comfort building and back to our table. She thinks I’m deep and she likes me but she was physically interested in another boy at the party.
Good stuff: Good standard game.

Bad stuff: No teasing.

Where I lost the set: 

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

Set 97 – HB5 (PU ID 53): I went to sit with some girls and gamed one of them. While I was doing my first C1 game my *close sensor went wild. We made out like little rabbits. C1 C1 C1 followed and a little C2. I have a secret technique that makes girls melt for me. Some of her friends tried to take her while I had moved her outside and she didn’t want to. I asked her later if she wanted to go to them but she refused. My friends were leaving and I had no excuse to stay there any longer so I left too. 

Good stuff: Everything.

Bad stuff: –

Where I lost the set: –

Things to do differently: Should’ve bounced her to a fast food and from there to my room.

 

From there we went to a club.


Set 98 – 2 set: I opened them with something specific for my costume. I gamed the girl pretty well but a friend of mine made a bad impression (twice) and then sit near her. This ruined the set (she left). I could’ve taken her number.

Good stuff: Good game.

Bad stuff: The good boy vibe. 

Where I lost the set: Friends sabotaging me. Even though they know about PU they enter my sets without any reason. One of them tried to speak with the girl’s friend without being introduce. He ejected after a while.

Things to do differently: Should’ve teased her AT LEAST ONCE.

TIP: I left my drink at the girl’s table while I spoke with some friends. This was a good excuse for me to come back and continue the discussion. This could be called The Drink Prop.

FR: Peacocking at max

FR 31.10.2008

Set 92 – HB7 (PU ID 52): My hair wasn’t gelled today. I was the cute boy but I still entered a conversation with a girl waiting in line. I found we were heading in the same direction so we took a cab. I gamed her in the car and I was getting so many IOIs and, since the time was short, I asked for her number. She didn’t give it to me. I continued gaming after we got out of the taxi and I spinned her. She loved it and we made out. My first kiss close in day game.
Good stuff: I can handle the situation when girls don’t give me their number in an alpha manner.

Bad stuff: I didn’t anchor anything regarding an adventure (or a nickname or something).

Where I lost the set: -.

Things to do differently: I didn’t quite EV.


TIP: A trick that works with some girls is to pay for the taxi and to have her buy you a drink afterwards.
Day 2 with PU ID 49: We meet and I was carrying my Halloween costume so we go to my room to leave it there. There I show her some movies and we have some fun (she’s crazy) but I miss comfort totally. I go for the kiss and she refuses. I understand now that even if things go too well, comfort must be built.
Good stuff: Logistics: got her to my room and she enjoyed the experience.  

Bad stuff: No comfort. Didn’t move her to my bed.

Things to do differently: Don’t get thrown off your game if she is friendly.

 

Day 2 with PU ID 42: There was an AFC with her and a common friend. The guy was totally lost. My girl was into vampires so we vibed into that and AFTER we vibes he asked her: “So, do you like vampires?”.
Good stuff: Made A2 and A3 at max, I isolated her a little by talking   

Bad stuff: Not enough comfort.

Things to do differently:  I should’ve accentuated comfort and created some connection patterns.

 

I went with my Halloween costume in some clubs. I was peacocked at max and all girls opened me and tried to take a picture with me. The only problem was the game script has changed. I couldn’t throw my usual stories as they weren’t congruent with my costume and I DIDN’T ROLEPLAY.

 

Set 93 – 2 set: They didn’t hook with my stories (I can’t hook dancing sets with my game as they prefer to dance that to listen). My motto from now on: bring pre-gamed girls to clubs. 
Good stuff: I … opened! 🙂

Bad stuff: In this environment I don’t know what to say to continue being stimulating.

Where I lost the set: Not being stimulating enough.

Things to do differently: I noticed that successful guys talk a bit with girls and then start dancing hot. Some girls refuse, others accept. That’s the only way I’ve seen guys being moderately successful.

 

Set 94 – 5 set: Hooked them with my costume. I befriended everyone and took pictures with them. Then I gamed my target while the guy that was dating her was standing next to me. I played a game with them which made him look … well … dumb. I found out she was a virgin (and she liked that) so I didn’t take her number (she was also religious).

Good stuff: I had fun with them and the guy had no chance. It seems I get points when I hit on girls with boyfriend wannabes near.

Bad stuff: Nothing really. I could have isolated and got my phone number.

Where I lost the set: Not being interested.

Things to do differently: Should have tried using the girl as a pivot on another set, having fun with her, role playing with her.

 

 

FR: Not enough time for sarging

FR 28.10.2008

 

Today I sarged 2 girls the second time. They were some (kind of) failures from way back and they remembered me. I kept my cool but didn’t progress.
Set 86 – HB6 (PUD ID 49): I love the way she was dressed so I opened her even though she appeared a hard set (went the other direction in a hurry). 

Good stuff: Very good body rocking, opened logistically hard set.

Bad stuff: No comfort.

Where I lost the set: –

Things to do differently: I need a small comfort routine for day game.


Day 2 with PU ID 46: Went perfect. Got my kiss close.

Good stuff: Good eye contact and body language. Successfully tried the girlfriend test and the evolution phase shift routine.

Bad stuff: I got the kiss the third time. Should have played with her neck more and get it the first.

Things to do differently: I need a plan for Day 2s so we have more things to do, not just a drink. I should concentrate more on quality meetings instead on quantity meetings.


Phone game with PU ID 43: Got her for a meeting tomorrow (too bad I have another meeting AND an appointment at a doctor … all that … AFTER I finish work). I’m hoping for a flake here.

Good stuff: Great conversation. Went from extreme sports directly to book reading.

Bad stuff: –

Things to do differently: –

 

FR: *close while peacocking

FR 9.10.2008

Set 50 – HB6: I opened a girl on my way to work (PU ID 29). She’s cute, finished the university, she’s into organizations and a true mountain girl.

 

Set 51 – 3 set: I spoke with them in my university, they were from a bank, selling credit cards. My target was occupied (she was the one talking to people that entered the university) so I spoke with another girl but I couldn’t wait for my target so I ejected.

 

Set 52 – HB9: I opened her while she was promoting a club. Found out she works there, teaches sports, is into NLP (woow), psychology and she goes to the same retro club I go to. She was very interesting but when I asked for her number she showed me the ring (married for 6 years). C’est la vie!

 

Set 53 – 2 set / group: I opened 2 girls in a bar while they were buying a drink and met them (and their friends) later on the dance floor. She draws, doesn’t dance and has cool friends. I did a lot of kino, *closed (PU ID 30) and got a little sexual. I isolated, did the cube, took her out of the club and made out near it. I could’ve been more sexual and taken her to my place but I DIDN’T ACT. I should’ve tried more, I mean, why the fuck we went outside, to kiss??? 

 

Set 54 – mixed set, girl alone: I opened her and I tried improvising (because I had success during the night) but I failed (not that miserably as I was interrupted by a friend during my improvised A2). Conclusion: at the beginning, stick to the game and after you hook, be yourself.

 

Good points:

  • peacocking ROCKS if you do it with style (girls always looked at me and I could’ve opened more)
  • good alpha behaviour in talking to girls
  • negged/teased girls all day long (and they loved it)
Bad points:
  • I was shy to open other sets (because the girl I kissed was in the club). This is a dumb mistake I won’t repeat.
  • I could’ve taken her to my place … or at least try to!
Sticking points: SPEAKING WAY TOO FAST!!!